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Children and Money

by Lisa on January 4, 2012

Money.  It’s more than just teaching math and counting.  It has a societal value and it represents responsibility and generosity and worth.  How do we best use it to build godly character in our children?

We look at money the same way we view everything else…..through the vision we have for our family.  Our goal is to teach them to be godly, selfless, strong and responsible.  Also we want to prepare them for life on their own.  They need to know how to manage money.  How to make it serve you and not become a slave to it.

Once our children are of an age when they need money for things, we begin to give them opportunities to earn.  We don’t give them an allowance.  They get money by working for it (of course, they occasionally get money as a gift for birthday or Christmas).

How we decide which jobs are money makers is by looking at our responsibilities as members of a family.  For example, we wouldn’t pay a child to make their bed or sweep the floor.  These are jobs that we do to keep our home clean and orderly and we must all do our part.  No one should get paid to wash the dishes.  It is a part of the work of living together and keeping the house clean.  It doesn’t matter if they do someone else’s job for them, they still don’t get paid.

Also, we would never pay for serving others.  Faith and Jacob both helped me a lot this past week on the wedding of our friend’s son.  It was hard work and a sacrifice for us all, but I would not reward them with money.  It sends the wrong message…..that you deserve a reward for service.  We want our children to see serving others and sacrificing as a blessing that has its own reward.

We do have a list of jobs that are worth money: washing the car, weeding the flower beds, vacuuming the pool, cleaning out the garage, etc.  These jobs are not necessary to the every day operation of the home and would be considered “extra.”  I pay the girls that help me in Shop 24, James pays the kids when they work in his office, trimming trees, painting the fence, you get the picture.

It is easy for me to come up with a paying job if someone is saving money for something.  Also, occasionally they get paying opportunities outside of the home.  A relative might pay them to help build a fence or a neighbor pays them to mow her lawn.

This brings me to my next point: once they have money we must teach them what to do with it.

Many people have a formula: 10% to the church, 50% savings, whatever.  We have never done that.  We talk about it in school and teach them the purpose of money and what the Bible has to say about it.  We encourage them to save and to give and are very clear with them about what they need money for.  Beyond that, they can do pretty much what they want with it (within reason, of course).  If they spend it on silly things we will set up opportunities to learn the hard way that they should make better choices.

For example, if we go see a movie, anyone over 10 years old has to pay for their own ticket and any snack they want. If you spent all of your money and you can’t afford the movie ticket, you miss going with everyone else.  It’s a hard lesson.  But I would never, ever lend them money for a movie.  It’s not going to hurt them to miss it.

We might go to Sonic for a drink or ice cream and they have to buy their own.  If they don’t have any money, they miss out.  It teaches them to save.  If they lose something, like a shoe or a jacket, they have to pay to replace it.  There was a time a few years ago when one of our kids didn’t take care to put his shoes where they belonged.  He eventually lost one and he went without tennis shoes until he earned enough money to buy more.  He missed a lot of outside activities during that time.  It was a good lesson to take care of what you have and be sure you have a little money set aside in case you need it.  You can be sure he took good care of the shoes he had to work for.

The older they are the more they are expected to pay for until by the time they are 18 they have to buy their own clothes, gifts for friends, books, music, etc.  We make the gradual transition from buying everything for them to their being independent.  I’d start small, like encourage them to work to earn money to buy a birthday gift for a sibling.  Then maybe have them save for a book that they want and eventually they are buying most of their extra needs.

Even though they can generally make their own buying decisions, we do have the rule that they have to wait.  If one of the boys wants to buy himself a Lego set, he must shop for it with me and find the best price, then wait a few weeks and be sure that is how he wants to spend his money.  If, at that point, he still wants to use his money that way, I take him to the store where he has to get it, take it to the checkout and pay for it himself.  He must answer the cashier’s questions, pay attention to the total, count the change, have the whole experience.

Then he would have to wait a while before buying himself anything else.  We watch their heart and help them guard against selfishness.  I want to be very clear, we would never take their money away from them.  We want them to have the security that it safely belongs to them.  With this ownership comes responsibility.  Put it in a safe place, count it often, let me know if you are taking any money with you somewhere, know how to handle it in public, save what you will need for the future, give to others.

Once they are in their later teens we have them go through Dave Ramsey‘s Financial Peace seminar.  This helps them learn details such as insurance, debt, planning for the future.

Our main goal with money is to teach them not to love it, but to use it for their good (not just their pleasure).  Like anything, they must not use it selfishly, but be generous, responsible and wise.  It is a wonderful tool for checking your child’s heart.  If you see them managing their money badly, you can be sure they have issues that need to be worked on.  These are some tips for using money to teach lessons:

1. If a child uses their money only for themselves, they are selfish.  I would have them work really hard for very little pay, then tell them they have to use that pay to buy something for someone else.  Perhaps a brother they need to mend a relationship with or a grandparent that has been overly generous.

2. If a child whines about not getting paid enough then they are showing a “welfare” mentality.  I would have them work for free for a day (preferably helping an elderly neighbor or doing a hard, unpleasant job).  Feed them well, like you would any workman, but don’t allow them to whine.  For every complaint they owe you an extra 15 minutes of work.

3. If a child begs for things at the store, they don’t appreciate what they have.  First of all, I would never buy them what they are asking for.  Then I would take them home and choose 3 things from their room (YOU choose, not them) for them to give away.  Not put on a shelf, not take away for a while, GIVE away.  The less they have, the more they will appreciate their things.

4.  If a child steals, they are a thief and a fool.  You must set them on the right path immediately.  First have them repay what they took by working it off.  They must pay it back plus extra.  Second, they would be stripped of all entertainment for a time (and other things depending on the situation).  Third and most important, they must confess what they did to the person they took it from and ask how they can make it right.  This is a breach of trust and you absolutely cannot have that in a healthy family.

5. If your child has spent money they don’t have (like building up a phone bill they can’t pay) then you have a great opportunity to teach them what it means, “The borrower is slave to the lender” Proverbs 22:7.  Most of us know firsthand how miserable it is to owe money to someone.  This is a great way for your children to learn it from someone that loves them.

6. If you ask a child to help you with a project and they ask you how much they will get paid, they are ungrateful.  I would not only have them do the requested task, but I would have them do all of my work for a day or two.  If they are too young for that, they can shadow me and do as much as possible.  They need to see how much work you really do that no one pays you for.

These are just a few examples of ways money can be used to build godly character.  Thinking of it as a tool instead of a burden or a right can make it easier to know how to handle issues that come up.

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Kristin January 4, 2012 at 11:13 am

Great post. Solid, biblical advice. I know I don’t pay my kids for enough… but, I *definitely* would never pay them for the “necessary” jobs. Now I just need to figure out what to do with a grandparent who insists on paying them for things they shouldn’t be paid for (grades, Bible reading…). *sigh* Sharing this with my hubby as we continue to try to figure out this parenting thing. Nearly 8 kids, and we still have SO much to learn!!

Again, thanks for a great post Lisa!
:)
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Becky@OrganizingMadeFun January 4, 2012 at 11:13 am

Lisa…we are so like minded. These are all things my husband and I have done with our kids {well, up to the age of 12}. People are shocked when I tell them that I do NOT buy toys for my kids – only for Christmas or birthday. That’s it! If they want a toy, they must buy it themselves. They’ve learned how to haggle {and really well} at garage sales. They now look for bargains and try to find the best prices. I don’t pay them for their everyday chores – they get punished/discipline/consequence for not finishing or doing them. They don’t get allowances, they work to earn extra money. My son earned his whole way to camp last summer and this winter {that’s a lot of money}. We didn’t pay for anything! He took his toys {and a few other junkie things I found around here that I didn’t want} and SOLD them at a friend’s garage sale to help pay for camp! I was so amazed and proud of him. So, amen! Love this…I KNEW I like you for a reason!!

Becky B.
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Kristy Holland January 4, 2012 at 11:34 am

This sounds great! My kids are 7 and 4 – do you have any examples of jobs you do and what you pay. I would love to get someone’s perspective on this. Thanks for the great post.

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I Live in an Antbed January 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm

There is so much wisdom here, Lisa! Tying consequences to choices is such a powerful way to teach values. Great job!!! :)
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Homeschool on the Croft January 4, 2012 at 1:40 pm

So many good pieces of advice here. Some we do, some we’ve done in the past, and some we must look to getting in order again.
New year… new time for resolutions :)
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damantik January 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Ouch. Lots of food for thought. Parenthood is not for the faint of heart and sometimes my parenting heart gets pretty faint. Our only child is 14 and we have just a few years left to pour into him. If I could go back 14 years, there are things I know we would do differnetly, but by God’s grace, we will keep learning and growing and hopefully send a decent, godly young man into the world. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and insights!

Deb Mantik

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Karen January 5, 2012 at 7:31 am

Great post! This might make my teenage sons believe there is a meaner mom than I am! I’m also a Dave Ramsey fan, but also a Love and Logic fan. We gave allowances until they were 15. (Well, until I lost my job. The trickle down meant “layoffs” for everyone!)
The allowances weren’t a lot, and they do not get paid for “family contributions” such as washing dishes, cleaning bathrooms, doing their own laundry (I haven’t done their laundry for 3 years. They are 14 and 16.) Our view is this: You have to find a balance that works for you. Our sons are post-institutionalized (adopted at 8 and 10), so family contributions are critical. We view a moderate allowance as a tool, just as books for school, cleats for soccer, or a piano for practicing.

That said, we WOULD subtract from allowances for things like: V chose not to do his assigned task, which meant we had to do it. Then, he pays us for it. They could pay each other to do their “chores”, if they choose. Or, we might subtract a bit if they misuse electricity or water by leaving lights on or taking 30 minute showers. Then they are helping to pay the bill. They have to buy most of their own clothes, and they have saved money for video games, mp3s, and spending money for our trip to Disney World. (We saved for that trip for 3 years, as a family. Counting the coins and every little bit helped us appreciate it a lot more!) We buy necessary socks and underwear, and have a cap on things like shoes and sports equipment. A few weeks ago, they needed sneakers. I said, “I’m happy to put $45 toward that pair of shoes.” Without blinking, my oldest gave me the remaining $55 for the $100 Nikes! And when he got his driving permit, he was not allowed behind the wheel until he deposited the $500 insurance deductible into our savings account. If he has an accident and the car needs to be fixed, we’ll be happy to let him drive again when there is another $500 in there. (That idea is straight from Love and Logic. I love it!)

We also have a “buy back box.” If things are left around for too long – shoes in the middle of the floor, a hat on the table – it is put in the box. They have to pay a fee for its return within a specified time frame, or it is given away.

Thank you very much for this post!! I think we’ll have some new things to try in our family.

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Lisa January 5, 2012 at 9:17 am

Wow! Thank you all for your thoughtful comments. I love hearing what you have to say about these subjects.

Kristin, it is difficult to work grandparents in that don’t have the same beliefs. What we do in those cases is just tell the kids to be respectful of the grandparents and know that once Grandma is gone we will discuss the matter. I might take that money and put it into a family “account” for us to use for things the whole family can enjoy. You have to be creative.

Becky, I remember when your son was raising money for camp. That is amazing! What a great lesson he will carry with him for his whole life.

Kristy, we pay for things like painting, weeding, helping in our businesses, cleaning out the car, mending fences, etc. They sell things on ebay, sometimes they work in friends’ garage sales so they can sell some of their things, our neighbor pays them occasionally to clean out her field or paint her fence. They don’t make a lot of money through us, but it’s enough for them to buy what they need and save a little.

Deb, we all could have done better. It’s a constant process isn’t it? We never get there…we just keep doing the best we can.

Karen, What a great comment. Thanks for giving such wonderful examples of teaching kids about money. If allowances worked for you then that’s great! We each have to figure out what will get our kids from selfish little ones to selfless, godly adults. I love that you all save together as a family for things. Your guys will have an appreciation for money that will bless them when they are adults. Thanks so much for sharing!

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Heather January 6, 2012 at 7:20 pm

This is a post I am bookmarking! I have two little ones at home plus perhaps more to come, and my husband and I were both raised in opposite, but faulty, view on money. Thanks for sharing your wise words! These are great suggestions. I will definitely employ them with my children as they get older.
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Online Parenting Class January 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm

this is such a great read.=)

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Michele @ The Excellent Wife January 10, 2012 at 8:56 pm

I’m late to comment (as always!), but love this post. I agree with both you and Becky. I like knowing you teach them Dave Ramsey eventually. I will be keeping this in mind for when my children enter their teen years. Thanks for this excellent, and godly, post!
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Ruth Smith January 19, 2012 at 9:30 pm

“welfare mentality”, that is a very disturbing label, very ignorant and smug, there are many, many people on welfare that are there because they are working but are below poverty level or are there for a temporary period of time, but believe me they don’t whine if they have to work, your kids are lucky that they are totally sheltered and protected from the real world, well maybe in the long run, not so lucky, but as someone who calls herself a Christian, that is a very judgmental, un-Christian like remark.

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Lisa January 20, 2012 at 10:07 am

Ruth,

I appreciate you leaving feedback on my post about teaching children about money. I certainly never meant to suggest that everyone who is receiving welfare is whiny or doesn’t want to work. I also didn’t say people shouldn’t be on welfare temporarily. It is necessary for some people to get back on their feet after an unexpected crisis and there is no shame in that.

What I am saying is that whether you are on welfare or not you shouldn’t feel you are entitled to something that you did not earn. I was addressing how important it is to teach our children that we don’t owe them the reward unless they work for it. It is the attitude of entitlement that is damaging our country and our children. That is what the Bible teaches and it is not the least bit judgmental. Just the opposite in fact, I love others enough to want them to have the satisfaction of knowing that they worked for their money.

2 Thessalonians 3: 10 “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat”

1 Timothy 5:8 “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel”

I’m not interested in getting into a political discussion or slinging insults just because we do not agree with each other. It is unnecessary to call me ignorant, smug and un-Christlike. I welcome your thoughts and will be glad to continue the discussion as long as it is in the spirit of helping one another. But I will not publish any comments that are insulting to me, my family or my other readers.

Lisa~

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